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    Our daughter and her boyfriend are tripping around Europe and the UK, and have spent the last week in Dublin. St Patricks day for them included watching a game of hurling, then Gaelic football, then off to a pub for the obligatory pint of Guinness.
    Since doing a paper on brewing as part of her Food Science degree, she's turned into a real beer snob, and she is adamant that Irish Guinness really does taste better.

    Gotta ask, why did the Irish Americans substitute BACON for miserable stuff like corned beef? What were they thinking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob (oh, THAT Bob) View Post

    Fish and chips didn't originate in England, the cooking technique of deep frying was brought there by Sephardic (African) Jews.

    Might have been true for frying fish in batter, but not for Fish and Chips, which was a fusion of North England and London fast food.

    Both Lancashire and London stake a claim to being the first to invent this famous meal - chips were a cheap, staple food of the industrial north whilst fried fish was introduced in London's East End. In 1839 Charles Dickens referred to a "fried fish warehouse" in his novel, 'Oliver Twist'.

    The populace soon decided that putting fried fish and chips together was a very tasty combination and so was born our national dish of fish and chips!
    The first fish and chip shop in the North of England is thought to have opened in Mossely, near Oldham, Lancashire, around 1863. Mr Lees sold fish and chips from a wooden hut in the market and later he transferred the business to a permanent shop across the road which had the following inscription in the window, "This is the first fish and chip shop in the world".
    However in London, it is said that Joseph Malin opened a fish and chip shop in Cleveland Street within the sound of Bow Bells in 1860.

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    Fish and potatoes they stole from the Irish!

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    It was the Spanish who brought the potato to Europe when they came back from Peru.

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    Quote Originally Posted by epoxyboy View Post

    Gotta ask, why did the Irish Americans substitute BACON for miserable stuff like corned beef? What were they thinking?

    You mean why corned beef instead of bacon? Jewish butchers don't do a great trade in bacon. Lucky not to have corned chicken feet, or the like.

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    Corned beef and cabbage is the Irish-American variant of the Irish dish of bacon and cabbage.

    I'm guessing that's not bacon as Americans view bacon. Is it pork belly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWSmith View Post

    I'm guessing that's not bacon as Americans view bacon. Is it pork belly?

    Bacon

    Streaky and back bacon, cured and smoked.

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    That is good looking bacon.

    I made corned beef and cabbage this weekend in the electric pressure cooker that Ken gave me for Christmas. It came out fantastic total prep and cook time just a hair over a hour and a half.


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    They must export all the good thick back beacon to Europe. I never see it in markets here and we are only 50 miles from Smithfield, the cured pork capital.

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    Try Smoked Hog Jowl. Not those little wimpy presliced packages, but the whole thing, weighing about three or four pounds and cheaper than bacon. You can slice & fry it like bacon, season a pot of beans or greens with some chunks, or cook it whole in a pot or pressure cooker, then cook your spuds & cabbage in the bacon-flavored water. You can leave the skin on and have rind on your bacon, or slice the skin off with a bit of the fat and make homemade cracklings ("fried pork rinds").

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    Meat side

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    At one time the mayor of Dublin was Jewish.

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